History of Whitelocks
I sent out an abundance emails to a variety of sign writers, gilders, letterers etc and waited to receive responses to help focus my research.
Unfortunately, not a lot of them replied, but the responses that I received were as follows:
Ged Palmer
1. How long have you been practising lettering and sign writing?
I've been actively drawing letters since I was about 14. I started getting serious on calligraphy about four years ago, I've only been painting with brushes since 2012.
2. How did you become so interested in such practices?
It started out with an interest in graffiti and skate culture. I painted large murals a lot in my teenage years but when I came to study design I got a lot more interested in the history of typography. My interested in sign painting came about in 2012 when I was asked to do the sign for a restaurant called the Gallimaufry which I did the identity for. That sparked an interested in creating letters with a brush and the wider sign painting craft.
3. Do you get many commercial opportunities from your craft? Do clients approach you or vice versa?
It's taken a good few years but I am happy to that most of my work come from clients approaching me these days. Nearly all of my work is commissioned based. That said there have been a lot of times where I have decided I want to work with a certain client because I believed in what they do and because I was able to have lots of creative freedom with the project, and with that in mind I try to keep my fees down to make sure the project happens.
4. What industries do you find yourself producing work for most? For example: pubs, coffee shops, etc.
At the moment it's a good mix of commercial design work: logotype, book covers, advertising work and then working with independents such as coffee shops where I do the sign painting.
5. Do you get a lot of work in the UK or do you often travel?
Most of my work is UK based or I work remotely for US clients.
6. Do you get approached by clients who want something modern in terms of aesthetics? Or do people ask for more traditional design styles, because of the history of sign painting?
My aim to make work that looks classic. I get a lot of inspiration from classic styles of lettering, everything from Roman, copperplate, brush scripts, etc etc. I think the trick is to try and make the work look appropriate and also timeless. Sometimes it's fun to try and make it look really 50s or Victorian but there has be a reason for it.
7. Would you say that sign writing is a dying craftsmanship?
It was live and kicking last time I checked!
Manu from Pincel Signs
1. How long have you been practising lettering and sign writing?
2. How did you become so interested in such practices?
3. Do you get many commercial opportunities from your craft?
4. What industries do you find yourself producing work for most? For example: pubs, coffee shops, etc.
6. Do you get approached by clients who want something modern in terms of aesthetics? Or do people ask for more traditional design styles, because of the history of sign painting?
7. Would you say that sign writing is a dying craftsmanship?
My Dad was a signpainters and head of the sign shop at Knott's Berry Farm.
1. How long have you been practising lettering and sign writing?
I learned calligraphy when I was, I think, 12 yrs old. I had a little training in layouts in my first year of art school, 1988-89, and slapped together flyers and cover art for a band I was in, in the 90s. Other than that, I didn't practice lettering much at all before starting as an apprentice, here at New Bohemia, in June of '99.
2. How did you become so interested in such practices?
I've never been especially interested. This shop had been turning out attractive work in my neighborhood for 6 or 7 years before I walked in the front door, which I appreciated, but I was mainly looking for an opportunity to get myself into a "creative work ethic", and nothing so specific as sign writing.
3. Do you get many commercial opportunities from your craft? Do clients approach you or vice versa?
I don't have a marketing bone in my body. Clients approach us, more so each year.
4. What industries do you find yourself producing work for most? For example: pubs, coffee shops, etc.
Looking around the shop right now, I see projects in the works for a coffee shop, a Turkish restaurant, a private grammar school, and for Pinterest HQ. That may be a typical selection. Small local businesses and tech industry campuses call on us rather frequently.
5. Do you get a lot of work in your home town or do you often travel?
Most of our work is within 50 miles of SF, but I'm plenty willing to travel.
6. Do you get approached by clients who want something modern in terms of aesthetics? Or do people ask for more traditional design styles?
Probably somewhat more than half of our jobs are designed by the client, or someone else they hired, and we're just being asked to paint it (or to "make it look hand painted"). Those that we're asked to design are not generally heading in a "modern" direction, unless it's maybe mid-20th century modern.
7. Would you say that sign writing is a dying craftsmanship?
Quite the opposite. I s'pose my view from here is skewed, but I posit that while the craft went through a drastic winnowing in the 80s and 90s, in many parts of the world (and is currently going through such, in India), currently, in the US, at least, we're in a period of growing appreciation for the appearance of hand-craftedness. There are, of course, many hi-tech means of producing simulacra of that, but the actual pushing of paint with a hand-held brush, while it may never again be the predominant mode of sign production, isn't likely to die, as a craft, anytime in the foreseeable future. I tell people, frequently, that, in the coming decade, we can reasonably expect to find more active sign painters in their 30s, than we can currently find in their 50s.
I was also wondering if you know of anybody else that I can contact to talk to about the craft? I've been looking around for larger studios of several painters, and was wondering if you knew of any?
I've got four other painters working here. I don't know of many other multi-sign painter operations around. Mostly people working for themselves. Josh, at Best Dressed Signs, in Boston, has another painter working with him. Bob Dewhurst has been at it, here in SF, for 30+ years, and often works with another painter or two. You'd probably get some interesting perspective from the guys at Colossal Media, who send out teams of billboard painters all over New York, every day.
Dapper Signs
Annoyingly, they didn't have time to reply to my original questions that I sent them, but luckily they had been asked similar questions from someone before, so they sent me the answers of these instead which were as follows:
What or who inspired you to pick up a brush (or whatever else it is that you use!?)
People seem to really like it when they see you painting letters, and will often stop to chat with you. It's also the most satisfying work that I've ever done. Most of our customers are independent businesses, so they a lot invested in them - money and emotion. What I do is basically the icing on the cake and it's great when you see a customer so hyped on the work you've done for them.
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I also noticed some signs painted on a Street Food building..
I quite liked the carnival aesthetic of these signs..
Having a look at pub typography, I noticed it's always very ornate and fluid..
A lot of gold is used..
I liked these signs at the Packhorse as they looked traditional.
Whitelocks has recently gone through some modernised branding, but still holds traditional aesthetics throughout the pub..
I noticed a Marks and Spencer stall in Leeds Market, which I thought was quite ironic as they tried to make themselves look old, when they're not a very old company..
Had a look at some other market stall fascia..
There was a bit of hand painted lettering in Trinity Kitchen..
I like the vintage feel to the type at Everyman Cinema..
The typeface used for Carlucci's is very scripted and elegant..
There was a little hand painted stall at Cielo Blanco..
The new Byron Burgors have used gilding in their windows, which is unusual, as most places use gold vinyl to try and pull off the gilding aesthetics, but on closer inspection I noticed that Byron Burgers have actually hired a gilder to produce the window displays..
They even had a hand painted menu inside the building..
I found this trip around Leeds really useful, as it gave me a bit more of an insight into the types of signage that are used commercially within pubs and in the market square.
From this trip, I have decided to produce a sign for Whitelocks pub, as it reaches 300 years old in 2015, which is a perfect time to commemorate the pub and produce a piece for them!
I have emailed the owner, to see if they would be interested in having something produced for their 300th birthday, which also means that I can photograph the final product in context.
I really liked the traditional feel to the design of this rose sticker.
I love the typography on this building in Banbury. It used to be a ghost sign (all worn out and hardly visible, just left over paint from years ago when it was first painted) but has recently been renovated and looks so good on the old building! Funnily enough the place doesn't sell coal, cake, etc anymore, it's actually an estate agents..
I found looking around for typography and signage really inspiring, as I started to notice a lot of particular aesthetics that I enjoyed and it's definitely encouraged me to get on with my practical work!
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Don't talk about the use of vinyl in your last paragraph of the history chapter.
- Try to state where sign writing is now, and don't be negative or opinionated.
Think about the hand crafted "vibe" to sign writing and how that adds personality to communication.
The introduction and conclusion are not chapters, so don't call these Chapter 1 etc.
Choose a brand that will be interested in sign writing for your practical. There's no point trying to create something for someone that won't be interested or won't need it in today's commercial audience.
Have a look at the pubs in Leeds - primary research
- Whitelocks
- Traditional pubs
- Go into town and list potential places
- Belgrave type places?
Your sign could work with traditional methods, e.g. gilding, but produce something contemporary in the design aspect.
Make changes that were noted in your written element.
Feedback I received from the group crit:
- Have a look at places like Burger King and how painted signage could possibly work for them?
- Look at commercial places for signage
- Could produce a set of signs, if you have time?
- Think about traditional design methods.
How can you use these to their full potential?